Comments on: How to cascade a stack of Nortel switches? https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/ technology, networking, virtualization and IP telephony Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:37:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-22984 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:37:31 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-22984 In reply to Consuelo Annon.

Why are the logs “not forthcoming”?
What software version are you running?

I was running a clinical telemetry real-time monitoring network with a stack of Avaya ERS 5530s so they can certainly work well if configured and maintained properly.

Good Luck!

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By: Consuelo Annon https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-22929 Mon, 21 Apr 2014 15:35:30 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-22929 Hi Mike
We have a number of 5530 Nortel switches deployed in stacks. We frequently have a member of the stack fail. Obviously if this is the member with the uplinks the entire stack is inaccessible and does not work, however when it is a member all users on that switch loose service. We can’t figure what causes these failures and we would like to come up with a preventative measure. Nortel logs are not particularly forthcoming
Can you suggest anything we can do to prevent these failures.

Thank You

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-18882 Thu, 24 Oct 2013 02:56:02 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-18882 In reply to HEEREN.

If you are replacing like for like it should be straight forward… just restore the configuration. It would be wise to document the configuration just in case you have problems with restoring the (binary) backup.

You can probably find more details on the discussion forums.

Good Luck!

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By: HEEREN https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-18872 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 06:10:25 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-18872 I want to replace one of my base switch from six 425-24t Nortel switch stack.
After replacing will the new switch become a base switch?
Are there any conditions on which the switch becomes a base switch?
Also I want to restore the configuration of old switch to new switch. Are there any dependencies to restore the configuration file of switch in a stack?

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By: Shaun https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-18777 Tue, 01 Oct 2013 05:55:00 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-18777 In reply to Shaun.

Hi Michael,

May I please ask you another question. My production switch is a 5520 and I need to stack another same model to it. The new switch has a newer firmware as well as software so my question is would the new switch automatically push the new firmware and software onto the base switch – if so will the base switch lose all its configurations? It’s good if to have it upgraded automatically but not good if the configuration is lost!

Thanks,
Shaun

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-17661 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:25:30 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-17661 In reply to Jason Johnson.

I believe the maximum length you can order is 5 meters which is 16′ 4″ in length.

Good Luck!

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By: Jason Johnson https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-17660 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:55:18 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-17660 Do you know what the max length is for the stacking cables?

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By: Shaun https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-17362 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:33:53 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-17362 Hi Michael,

Thank you very much for your reply! Highly Appreciated!

Shaun.

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-17359 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:48:38 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-17359 In reply to Shaun.

Hi Shaun,

I would advise you to review the configuration of the switch. The default configuration or any new switch/stack or switch added to an existing switch/stack has all ports members of VLAN 1. If you are not using VLAN 1 then that would explain why you are having issues communicating. You should configure the ports on the new switch in the stack (2/1-2/48) with the proper VLAN membership for those ports.

Good Luck!

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By: Shaun https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-17313 Sat, 08 Jun 2013 02:40:20 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-17313 Hi Michael,

I am a beginner of Nortel Network Switch and I have an urgent question for you. The scenario is I have a production single Nortel 5520 48T switch and I need to make a stack by adding a new 5530 24 port switch to it. I’ve done everything as you’ve suggested in the post but I can’t seem to get the new switch working in the stack. The new switch is seen as unit 2 in the stack but for some reason it has no connectivity whenever I plug a device in. The base switch works fine – no dram whatsoever. It appears to me that the VLANs configuration on the base swtich does not pass thru to the second switch. Will I need to create VLANs on the second swith to be identical to the base switch and tag all the ports? Do I need to use 2 stack cables to x cross the switches? I only used one as I don’t think it’s neccessary. Also there are only 2 VLANs on the base switch: Data and VoIP which in general are commonly found on access switches.

Thank you,
Shaun

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-8700 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 03:17:58 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-8700 In reply to 420 + 425 stack.

Hi Ami.A,

You’ve got some pretty old hardware there… technically the BayStack 420-24T/48T and BayStack 425 24T/48T were intended to be stacked together but I believe there was a software requirement – you had to be running a certain version of software on the switches. In general you only need to connect the switches and they will stack themselves together without any intervention. Are you running at least software release 3.0 on all the switches?

Sorry I can’t offer more help.

Good Luck!

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By: 420 + 425 stack https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-8656 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:36:41 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-8656 hi we have a stack of 3 nortel 420 and we want to add the 4 siwtch to the stack it is a 425 baystack
can this work ?
we have all ready added the 425 with the cascaded cables to the stack we see the cascade leds turning on but there is no negotiation and on the CLI interface we can see only the 425 if we are physically connected to it with the nortel CLI cable

what should we do for the 425 see and work as a stack with the 420 switches ?

Ami.A

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By: Richard Jackson https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7320 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:24:44 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7320 In reply to Michael McNamara.

Thank you for this information. I appreciate the response!

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By: Richard Jackson https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7319 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:23:34 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7319 In reply to Michael McNamara.

Hi Michael. Everything worked great! Thank you again for your assistance on this!

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By: Rahim K https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7317 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:01:23 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7317 In reply to Michael McNamara.

Thank you for your prompt reply, Michael. Your reply is definitively going to help me in this project. Also, thanks for the tip of documenting each switchport migration from old to new. Quiet handy !!! Much appreciated !!!

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7316 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:54:02 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7316 In reply to Rahim K.

Hi Rahim,

Your question is probably better suited for the discussion forum but since you’ve taken the time and effort to post let me at least do the courtesy of a reply.

You can’t stack a BayStack 420 and an ERS 4500 series switch so any configuration changes/migrations will need to be handled manually. Assuming you only have a few VLANs I would suggest you document the existing switch and then configure ports on the new stack (after adding the new switch to the existing stack of 3 switches). You can even setup an 802.1q tagged trunk port to bridge the traffic between the old stack and the new stack so you can physically move the connections one at a time.

Assuming you’ve kept all your ports at auto-negotiate you should only need to worry about VLAN assignments. I’ve personally done with 300+ ports which involves a lot of meticulous documentation, document the which data jacks go to which switch ports, then document the port settings for that switch port, then document the new switch port that will be used, then configure that port. Ultimately you follow the documentation and make the physical move.

Here are some of your answers;

A) I would add the new ERS 4500 switch to the stack first, make sure it has the same FW and SW releases as the stack (save yourself another headache).
B) You need to manually document it via Java Device Manager or the CLI, then use Enterprise Device Manager or the CLI to configure the new ports.
C) AUR is only an option if you are replacing a switch in the stack that is defective… you are adding a switch not replacing a switch.
D) The first step you should take is to add the new switch to the stack… if you configure the switch when it’s a standalone that configuration will be lost when it is added to the stack.

Good Luck!

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By: Rahim K https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7315 Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:38:47 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7315 Hi Michael,

I have to replace a Baystack 420 stack (stack of 2 x 24-port switches) and add a new 48-port 4548GT-PWR to an existing stack of 3 x 4548GT-PWR switches.

Following are the tasks that need to be completed –
1) Mirror configurations of 2 x 420 Nortel Baystack 420-24T over to the new Nortel 4548T switch
2) Configure the new 4548T Nortel switch as a stack with the existing 4548T switch
3) Move cables from 2 x 420 Nortel Baystack 420-24T over to the new Nortel 4548T switch
4) Decommission 2 x 420 Nortel Baystack 420-24T

Given that I am a novice to Nortel, I have a few questions around the approach to be taken –
a. At what stage should I be replicating the switchport configs, vlan creation, vlan port assignment etc from Baystack 420’s to the new 4548GT-PWR switch? Should this be after the 4548GT-PWR has been added to the stack or should this be done before it is added to the stack?
b. How do I replicate the config from both Baystack 420 to the new 4548GT-PWR? Is it going to be a port-by-port based config copy?
c. If yes and once the config has been copied across to the 4548GT-PWR, do I just add this 4548GT-PWR switch to the existing stack & let the stack auto-unit-replacement do the magic to ensure that the switch becomes part of the stack & is number as Unit 4. Will this erase my switchport/vlan config from 4548GT-PWR switch?
d. Once the 4548GT-PWR becomes part of the stack, do I need to re-configure the switch again for switchports/vlans etc?

I will ensure that the sw/fw version on the new 4548GT-PWR is the same as the existing switches in the 4548GT-PWR stack.

Hoping for your assistance Michael.

Thank you.

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7300 Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:30:22 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7300 In reply to Richard Jackson.

Depending on the software release there is a feature called Auto Unit Replacement that can make things pretty easy. Short of that I would recommend backing up the configuration, power off stack, replace switch, factory default stack and re-number if necessary – download configuration file to stack.

You’ll find some discussions on this site and on the discussion forums.

Cheers!

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7299 Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:26:20 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7299 In reply to Richard Jackson.

Hi Richard,

You should be able to break the stack and insert the new switch. The existing switches can be left running, I would suggest connecting the new switch powered off. Once you have all the stacking cables re-attached you can power it up and it should join the stack showing up as the next unit in the stack.

Good Luck!

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By: Richard Jackson https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7294 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:15:34 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7294 Another question if I may. What is the best process for replacing a failed Nortel 420 in a stack? I have seen different opinions on this.
Thank you sir.

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By: Richard Jackson https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7293 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:13:01 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7293 Hi Michael. I currently have a stack of 3 5510-48t switches. I want to add an additional switch to the stack. I have ensured the software and diag versions matches the versions on the stack. Can I just add the switch to the stack live and will it be numbered automatically Unit 4? Or, do I need to shutdown the stack, add the switch and cables and then power up?
Thank you in advance for any insight on this.

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7187 Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:55:34 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7187 In reply to Santiago Muga.

You’re using the wrong syntax…

copy running-config tftp address 10.1.1.1 filename config.cfg

Good Luck!

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By: Santiago Muga https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7182 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 01:50:32 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7182 Hi Michael,

Thanks for the information, I appreciate it a lot. I was a little confuse at the beginning because the switch5 was disconnected from the stack and it was already with the version 5.5, so I downgraded it to 5.1 and I will reconnect to the stack again and then follow all your steps.

I have problems to backup the information, I get the following errors, Do you know what to do in this case?

4526GTX-PWR#copy running-config tftp 192.53.213.201 ?
^
% Invalid input detected at ‘^’ marker.
4526GTX-PWR#copy running-config usb runningconf.txt
^
% Invalid input detected at ‘^’ marker.
4526GTX-PWR#

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7179 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:23:57 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7179 In reply to Santiago Muga.

Hi Santiago,

Heavens no… no no no!!! You don’t need to disconnect the stack cables. You telnet or console up to the base and initiate the upgrade and the base switch will automatically push the software down to all the switches in the stack. If you are in front of the switches you’ll see a cut little LED display from all the switch ports.

I would follow these steps;

1. Backup the configuration (trust me – better safe than sorry)
2. Upgrade diagnostic software
3. Wait for reboot
4. Upgrade agent software
5. Wait for reboot
6. Test that everything is working
7. Plenty of time left for drinks!

You should refer to the release notes on page 21.

Good Luck!

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By: Santiago Muga https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/how-to-cascade-a-stack-of-nortel-switches/comment-page-1/#comment-7178 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:34:04 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/?p=260#comment-7178 Hi Michael,
I have an urgent question, this saturday night I will upgrade my stack of 5 switches 4500 from software version 5.1 to 5.5 and also the firmware.
My question is if the following steps are right ones for you:
1. Don’t need backup the configuration because all the ports use VLAN1
2. Power off the stack
3. Disconnect all the stack cables
4. Upgrade SW and FW on each switch
5. Reconnect stack cables
6. Power on the stack
7. Connect by console to Switch Base
8. Use the wizard to assign the stack IP address, default gateway and VLAN1
9. Ready to work again.

I am missing something else?

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