Comments on: Ethernet Switch 470 Stack Troubleshooting https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/ technology, networking, virtualization and IP telephony Sat, 30 Oct 2021 14:38:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-22251 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:17:20 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-22251 In reply to Nghiem Quy Toan.

Looks like you have some bad hardware… I would guess the ASIC behind ports 17-24 is bad.

Good Luck.

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By: Nghiem Quy Toan https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-22246 Thu, 30 Jan 2014 04:28:04 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-22246 Hi Mr. Michael
My ES 470-48t comes with this error
How can i resolve this problem ?
Thanks you very much!

470-48T Diagnostics 3.6.0.1

Testing main memory – PASSED

Resets: 205.
Initializing Flash..
Reading MAC Address..
MAC Address: 00:1A:8F:46:B9:C0
Initializing Switch CBs,…….
Initializing Switch HW..
PHY 17. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 18. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 19. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 20. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 21. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 22. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 23. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 17. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 18. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 19. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 20. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 21. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 22. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 23. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
Board Type: 2
Board Variation: 1
Board Revision: 6
Manufacture Revision: 32
Manufacture Date: 01262007
Serial Number: SACC5706V1
MAC Address: 00:1A:8F:46:B9:C0
Redundant DC: UNKNOWN
Board AC: OK
Stack Base Switch: OFF

Type: Address: Name:__________ Version:_______ InterOpVer:
DIAG-A 00000000 Diagnostics 3.6.0.1
AGENT-A 00100000 NT ES Agent 3.7.5.012 00000002
DIAG-B 00400000 BayStack Diag 3.0.0.5
AGENT-B 00500000 BayStack 3.1.2.6 00000002

Test 102 ROM Config – PASSED
Test 104 FANs – FAILED
FAN Fan Failed: FanBits=3
Test 207 NSXs Direct Registers – FAILED
NSXs DReg PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
Test 209 NSXs Indirect Reg/Mem – FAILED
NSXs IReg/IMem PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
Test 210 NSXs XRAM Adr/Data Lines – FAILED
NSXs XRAM A/D PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
Test 211 PHYs Register – FAILED
PHYs Reg PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
Test 212 NSXs Internal Loopback – FAILED
NSXs ILB PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
Test 213 CAM Interrupt – PASSED
Test 214 SNMP Interrupt – FAILED
SNMP Int PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
Test 215 PHYs Interrupt – FAILED
PHYs Int PHY 24. Not Resetting CR=FFFF
ROM Log Full

Press ‘a’ to run Agent code
Press ‘c’ to run Cascade external loopback test
Press ‘d’ to Download agent code
Press ‘e’ to display Errors
Press ‘i’ to Initialize config/log flash
Press ‘p’ to run POST tests
Press ‘r’ to Receive cascade test packets
Press ‘s’ to Send cascade test packets..

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By: Siddharaj Vansia https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-7203 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:55:46 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-7203 In reply to Michael McNamara.

Hi Mr.Michael,

Thank you very much for fast reply and help. Now I can proceed furthure. I was depressed as call was pending since long. thanks a lot.

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-7201 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:18:27 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-7201 In reply to Siddharaj Vansia.

Hi Siddharaj,

It looks like you have a hardware problem with that switch… that’s why it won’t boot normally.

127 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=159.
131 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=537.
179 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=6.
180 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=6.
181 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.
182 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.
183 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=341.
183 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.
184 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.
185 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.

You would need to replace or RMA the switch to get the problem resolved.

Sorry!

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By: Siddharaj Vansia https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-7195 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 06:33:03 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-7195 Sorry The question is for —–Michael McNamara—— Please help me Mr.Michael

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By: Siddharaj Vansia https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-7194 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 06:28:10 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-7194 Hi PJ,

My Nortel 425-24T switch is prompting as below. Once the switch is started after pressing “a” run agent code manually. When I restart It will start properly. But during each power cycle it is prompting for “a” run agent code, “d” download agent code etc….Please help.

I have tried resetting switch & Upgrading Firmware + Diagnostic also but no result found. It is behaving on the same way.

Output during power re-cycle are as below :

Ethernet Switch 425-24 Diagnostics 3.6.0.1

Testing main memory – PASSED

Resets: 226.
Initializing Flash..
Reading MAC Address..
MAC Address: 00:1B:BA:XX:XX:XX
Initializing Switch CBs
Initializing Switch HW..
Board Revision: 0
Board Variation: 0
Manufacture Revision: 33
Manufacture Date: 05162007
Serial Number: LBNNTMJXXXXXX
MAC Address: 00:1B:BA:XX:XX:XX
GBIC Type [25]: (none)
GBIC Type [26]: (none)
Stack In Cable: (none)
Stack Out Cable: (none)
Stack Base Switch: OFF

Type: Address: Name:__________ Version:
DIAG 00000000 425 Diags 3.6.0.1
AGENT 00100000 425/325 AGENT 3.6.2.014

Test 102 ROM Config – PASSED
Test 104 FANs – PASSED
Test 207 DRAM Cached/Uncached – PASSED
Test 211 PCI Bridge Registers – PASSED
Test 221 PHYs Register – PASSED
Test 233 SOC XRAM Adr/Data Lines – PASSED
Test 241 Link Status Interrupt – PASSED
Test 242 SNMP-DMA Interrupt – PASSED
Test 251 Ports Internal Loopback – PASSED

Press ‘a’ to run Agent code
Press ‘d’ to Download Agent code
Press ‘e’ to display Errors
Press ‘i’ to Initialize config/log flash
Press ‘p’ to run POST tests..

System Resets = 226.

Burn-In Loops = 0.
Burn-In Errors = 0.
Auto-Burn-In = DISABLED
Agent Baud = 9600.

Error Log:
Bad Port Mask = 80000001_00000000
Loop Test Error Description:
127 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=159.
131 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=537.
179 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=6.
180 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=6.
181 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.
182 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.
183 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=341.
183 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.
184 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.
185 251 SOC Port 2 Rx from 2 Bad Counter Sb=1108. Is=1104.

Press ‘a’ to run Agent code
Press ‘d’ to Download Agent code
Press ‘e’ to display Errors
Press ‘i’ to Initialize config/log flash
Press ‘p’ to run POST tests..

What is this error about ? and how can I resolve it.

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By: PJ https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-3183 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 05:17:03 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-3183 In reply to Michael McNamara.

I’ll try that. Thank you!

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-3008 Wed, 08 Dec 2010 06:42:57 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-3008 In reply to PJ.

Hi PJ,

Your questions are very logical and aren’t a bother at all.

You are using what is known as a Distributed MultiLink Trunk (DMLT) on your stack of 470 switches which is very wise. There are some known issues with DMLT depending on the software release you are running that you might be running into some specific bugs around DMLT. In general you see the election of a temporary base unit and all traffic should fail over to the remaining MLT link. It can sometimes take 60-90 seconds for the switch bridging table to update and connectivity to be restored.

We’ve found that using Unit 1 (Base) and Unit 2 (usually temporary base) seems to work much better than using any other units (switches) in the stack. We’re not sure if this has something to-do with the base unit function or not. You might want to try moving your second uplink to the 2nd unit (switch) in the stack and see if that performs better.

Good Luck!

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By: PJ https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-2965 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 06:23:34 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-2965 In reply to PJ.

I have additional question. In my first problem, switch 1 (SW1) and 4 (SW4) are connected to two core switches (CS1 and CS2), for example SW1 is connected to CS1 and SW4 to CS2. Core switches are for redundancy and connected by IST. Since SW1 is defective, the stack is connected only thru SW4. Why is it that the stack IP is ok (using ping) on some PC but not on other PC (timed out)? Hint: I can ping all PC connected to it from any PC, but not the stack IP. Sorry if find you my questions not that challenging. Just a newbie to networking. =)

Thanks a lot!

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By: PJ https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-2964 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 06:07:31 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-2964 In reply to Michael McNamara.

Thanks a lot!

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-2930 Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:07:29 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-2930 In reply to PJ.

Hi PJ,

If the base unit hangs up (or goes offline for whatever reason) the stack will elect a temporary base unit from the remaining switches in the stack. You can power cycle the original base unit to restore that switch (assuming it just got hung up and didn’t suffer a hardware failure) but you’ll need to power cycle all the switches in the stack to restore everything to back to the original state, again assuming you don’t have some hardware issue that caused the original problem.

With respect to your second question you can add the return cascade cable without any need for a reboot. You should need the stack UP and stack DOWN lights go green (from amber) once you connect the cable.

Good Luck!

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By: PJ https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-2929 Wed, 01 Dec 2010 04:41:30 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-2929 hi! need your expertise!
1) we have four 470 switches stacked. The first unit (base) hung-up. Can we replace/restart the unit without disconnecting the hosts on the remaining three switches?

2) Some of our stacks are running without “return stack cable” (cable connecting the last unit going back to the base). Does connecting a return cable needs a reboot?

Thanks!!!

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-2519 Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:41:08 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-2519 In reply to chandu.

Hi Chandu,

You have a standalone switch and you are concerned that the external loopback test on the cascade/stacking ports is failing. You realize that you need to physically place a cascade/stacking cable between the two cascade/stacking ports on the back of the switch (aka loop).

Good Luck!

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By: chandu https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-2493 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:01:25 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-2493 hi,
i have a small doubt.
i have a standalone switch.for that i run loop back internal test and it was passed.
but at the same time i run loop back external test.but it failed.
what will it show about the switch.
the switch model no. is ERS 5600
appreciate your help

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-260 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:32:58 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-260 Hi Munika,

What version of software is the Ethernet Switch 460 running? If you followed the procedure outlined at http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/11/factory-reset-nortel-ethernet-switch/ the switch shouldn’t prompt you for either a username or password (although it might if you are running software 3.7 or later). If the switch is running the SSH version of the software there won’t be any menu available just the basic CLI interface (there isn’t enough memory for both the SSH software and the menu).

The default read-write username is RW with a password of secure.
The default read-only username is RO with a password of user.

I would suggest you register for an account on the Nortel website and download the documentation for the version of software the switch is running. Depending on the version of software you should be able to configure the vast “majority” of options through the web interface although there will be some that must be configured through the CLI interface and/or Nortel’s Java Device Manager (JDM).

Good Luck!
Mike

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By: Munika https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-259 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:49:55 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-259 hi,
i am sorry i am posting my comment here. our company has recently got 5 nortel baystack 460 switch. they were being used by other company. when i power up the switch it gives me a command prompt and i figured out through internet it is suppose to give me a menu which my switch doesnt give me.it asks me for a password. (i dont have the password) , tried to break the boot sequence and then it said nvram formatted and all but it still asks me for password for menu.i figured out through command line how to enter ip and configure. once i bring the switch on my network through command line then i tried to use the web interface. i did see the web interface but it just shows system configuration and shows “access(RW)” i think i should be able to configure my switch through web interface. any idea how can i get those configuration settings so that i can configure through web interface. i got similar 5 switches and i will have to cascade them too. any help is appreciated. thanks.

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-155 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:15:32 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-155 It’s quite a pain when your rushing to replace a dead switch but it’s a show stopper if you arrive at the remote site with a switch that won’t join the stack because it’s running the wrong software version.

Thankfully Nortel has addressed this problem in the Ethernet Routing Switch 5500 series. You can stack switches with different software versions (I think you may need to be running at least software v4.2 or later) and the switches will upgrade/downgrade to the version running on the base unit.

Thanks for the comment!

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By: Tom https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:10:23 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-153 Good point on the software being at the same rev. We always have to update the software on replacement switches received from Nortel because we run the secure runtime image.

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:34:30 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-140 Thanks for that additional tip LGonsalves!

I have seen many occasions where only one port on the cascade module was defective. In that scenario I don’t believe the Ethernet Switch 470 menu or CLI will show you the status of the cascade interfaces. Here’s the “Display Hardware Units” menu for the same switch pictured above in Device Manager.

                         Hardware Unit Information

Unit# Switch Model     MDA Model   GBIC Port   GBIC Port   Cascade SW Version
                                                           Module
----- ---------------- ----------- ----------- ----------- ------- ----------
  1   470-48T                      (47) SX     (48) SX     400-ST1 v3.7.1.08
  2   470-48T                      (47) None   (48) None   400-ST1 v3.7.1.08

You either need to visual inspect the switch or query it using Device Manager.

Thanks for the comment!

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By: LGonsalves https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:08:46 +0000 http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/07/ethernet-switch-470-stack-troubleshooting/#comment-139 One other way to check the status of each stack switch is to telnet the stack IP and choose menu option Display Hardware Units. This way one is able to see what’s going on with the stack. If a cascade module is faulty, the corresponding switch won’t appear. Also check the
numbering of the units as it gives clues on which unit of the stack may be faulty or erroneous.

Normally, after building a stack I usually check for hardware problems using the Display Hardware option. If something seems to be wrong, then the procedure you referred is followed for each switch individually.

Yes, you’re right: you stack two units with different software and the amber light shows up :)

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