Comments on: DHCP Options (VoIP) Part 2 https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/ technology, networking, virtualization and IP telephony Sat, 30 Oct 2021 14:18:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4725 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:06:03 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-4725 In reply to radman.

Hi Radman,

You can use a DHCP relay (IP helper) for the IP phones just as you do with any other DHCP capable device.

Good Luck!

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By: radman https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4708 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:28:25 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-4708 to voip and enabling with dhcp – we have dhcp for pc’s at many offices and all doing IPhelper to individual scopes on a common dhcp server. can the phones use a similar design or must have a dhcp local to them?

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1082 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:38:21 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-1082 In reply to Renier.

Hi Renier,

We configure those folks that wish to be mobile with partial DHCP and hard set the Call Server IP address, node number and TN in their phones. Then they can roam to any campus where DHCP will assign them a local IP address and local 2245 gateway but the phone will connect to their “home” Call Server across the wide area network.

We’ve actually been very successful in our deployments. The early firmware for the 221x wireless phones didn’t have the partial DHCP option available so we pushed Nortel hard to get that feature set into the phone firmware.

It sounds like your physically moving folks between Call Servers? If you’re doing that you’ll need re-configure the wireless phone. I’m not sure if Nortel is looking to deploy the Nortel-i2004-B DHCP option string on the wireless phones which might give you the ability to remotely reconfigure the device.

Good Luck!

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By: Renier https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1078 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:17:15 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-1078 In reply to Michael McNamara.

Hi Micheal

I work at a company where we have muliple Gateways on mutiple sites.

For some reason the users love to move between sites and with the full DHCP option on, its frustrating because you have to go out and change the users Node ID on the phone to the specific site they moved to.

Is there a script you can write for when a phone changes from site on a HA system that it can automatically assing the site’s Node to the phone also?

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-482 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:42:52 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-482 The whole LLDP/ADAC thing is really between the IP phone and the switch, it actually has no interaction with the CS/BCM/SRG until the phone actually registers.

Just be aware of the following post I made recently, http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2008/08/adac-and-vlan-configurations/. If you make VLAN changes after you enable ADAC you can run into issues later on.

Good Luck!

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By: Dan https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-481 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:21:55 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-481 Thank you very much! I’m planning to upgrade the 5520 to version 6 (after learning from here that was already out). Already downloaded it. Let’s hope everything goes according to plan! Let’s hope BCM450 behaves as well as CS when it comes to ADAC.

Dan.-

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-480 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:08:55 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-480 Hi Dan,

Here’s the post in question, http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/nortel-ers-5520-pwr-switch/. This document is still applicable for the most part. If you are running software v5.1 or later on the ERS5520 then you don’t need to work about the MAC address ranges.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Good Luck!

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By: Dan https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-477 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:27:19 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-477 In this post you mention:
“In a previous article we reviewed how to configure a Nortel Ethernet Routing Switch 5520 using ADAC/LLDP (802.1ab) so a Nortel Internet Telephone could discover the voice VLAN ID automatically without manually configuration of the phone.”

Where is this article? i see only an article where you teach to configure via DHCP option 128: http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip/

Would love to read your article on that, since i’m configuring 1120’s + 5520/4526 + bcm450

Dan.-

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:03:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-15 Hello,

You are correct. Every since release 2.3 (latest release that just hit the streets is 3.0) you can configure “almost all” the options via DHCP. There are obviously a few options you can’t still configure via DHCP because the phone wouldn’t be able to get a DHCP response.

You can read my post entitled “Nortel IP Phones – UNIStim release v2.3” for a list of all the DHCP options.

Thanks for the comment!

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By: Anonymous https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:07:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-14 The Nortel 1100 series phones via TFTP can assign the node and TN automatically in the lastest firmware UniStim 3.0. In fact, all parameters can be including all phone settings, volume, backlight, etc.

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Tue, 06 May 2008 03:04:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-13 Hi,

I don’t believe the BES switch supports LLDP-MED, which is what you actually need for the switch to “inform” the phone which VLAN ID to use for the voice VLAN. At this time the only switch that supports this feature is the Ethernet Routing Switch 5520. The upcoming release of v5.1 for the Ethernet Routing Switch 4500 Series will also support LLDP-MED.

So to answer your question you really shouldn’t need to use both LLDP-MED and DHCP Option 191 at the same time. If you actually configure the IP phone for LLDP-MED it will ignore DHCP Option 191.

Cheers!

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By: barakoli https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:00:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-12 Hello, we are trying to use a BCM 400, BES 1020’s, and 1140e phones. The BES’s have some limitations and we are trying to find workarounds to automate the phone setup process. We can only do egress tagging on the ports. We have a voice and data vlan. We have tried to use option 191 to assign the vvlan but it does not seem to work. Option 128 does work. The issue is with both vlan’s on a port the BES will not allow a phone to pull dhcp so we use lldp and it works. Can you use lldp and option 191 at the same time? or is it negated. Thanks.

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:35:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-11 I don’t believe you can automate disseminating the node number and/or TN information with any of Nortel’s Internet Telephones.

The information must be programmed manually the first time the phone is installed. The Nortel phones will store (NVRAM) the Node and TN information so that the end-users will not need to enter anything on subsequent reboots.

This isn’t as big a problem as it might appear and/or sound. I’ve staged up to 250 Nortel i2002/i2004 phones prior to their final physical installation. I used the staging process to upgrade the phones to 0604DBG (required for LLDP-MED), to configure the phone settings (enable LLDP, enable Voice VLAN, enable LLDP-MED) and to program the node and TN information. I was then able to label each box (phone) and leave it’s placement and installation to a non-technical team.

Cheers!

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By: Anonymous https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:47:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-10 Can you push out TN and node information to the handset so the user doesn not have to enter that in?

I’ve got lldp-med and dhcp pushing everything else, thanks to your helpful blog… :)

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By: Michael McNamara https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:42:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-9 Hi Kenneth,

You would need to have a core switch (such as an ERS 8600 or 5500) setup for Layer 3 switching (routing). ADAC is broken in anything less than 5.0.6.26. In v5.1 software we supposedly no longer need to maintain the MAC address list within ADAC, since the switch now uses LLDP to determine if there is a Nortel IP phone attached to the port.

Cheers!

Hi Prophet001,

You can use DHCP option 128 without using DHCP option 191. They are independent of each other. So you could most definitely just use DHCP option 128 to assign the phone an IP address and the proper CS1000 information while keeping everything in the default VLAN.

Cheers!

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By: prophet001 https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:20:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-8 I am curious. The manual for the 1140e does talk about this technique for dhcp configuration. However, it says that you can pick from a list of option numbers including 128 for the first dhcp request. Can you use option 128 on the default vlan and still have it work?

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By: Kenneth, dk https://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:47:00 +0000 http://maddog.mlhs.org/blog/2007/10/dhcp-options-voip-part-2/#comment-7 I’m currently doing such a setup for a client using PP8610, edge ERS55xx switches and Nortel i2004 phones. I have been struggling with the ADAC/mac issues but hopefully the latest SW 5.1.0.0.1.4 will help. This series you have done are really appreciated. I think you mention somewhere that the PassPort need further configuration. Is that correct ?

Thx.
Kenneth

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