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		<title>By: Michael McNamara</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2009/06/when-will-it-end/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that RIM is crying fowl in the bidding process for the wireless division.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/072109-rim-shut-out-of-nortel.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/072109-rim-shut-out-of-nortel.html&lt;/a&gt;

Let the saga continue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that RIM is crying fowl in the bidding process for the wireless division.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/072109-rim-shut-out-of-nortel.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/072109-rim-shut-out-of-nortel.html</a></p>
<p>Let the saga continue!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McNamara</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2009/06/when-will-it-end/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the fun never stop? 

The rumor mill today is that Avaya has walked away from the table and the folks at Nortel are curious if Avaya ever had any real interest in making a purchase. When will it end I ask you all... with FTC approval out of the way all bids for the Nortel wireless division need to be submitted by July 21st with the auction set for July 24th. Once the wireless division is sold I would guess that we&#039;ll see something happen with the enterprise division.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the fun never stop? </p>
<p>The rumor mill today is that Avaya has walked away from the table and the folks at Nortel are curious if Avaya ever had any real interest in making a purchase. When will it end I ask you all&#8230; with FTC approval out of the way all bids for the Nortel wireless division need to be submitted by July 21st with the auction set for July 24th. Once the wireless division is sold I would guess that we&#8217;ll see something happen with the enterprise division.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McNamara</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2009/06/when-will-it-end/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting... someone was telling me not to long ago that the riffraff had all but left (jumped ship) leaving only their best engineers and software developers. 

I&#039;ve always been impressed by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snort.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Snort&lt;/a&gt; even years ago when it was in it&#039;s infancy. It is amazing to see how far Snort has come and what Martin Roesch has made of it. I&#039;ll probably be looking hard at Sourcefire in a few months time as I look to replace an aging IBM ISS Site Protector installation.

I certainly hope things pan out for yourself and all the other Nortel employees who I&#039;ve had the pleasure of working with and/or meeting in person.

Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting&#8230; someone was telling me not to long ago that the riffraff had all but left (jumped ship) leaving only their best engineers and software developers. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been impressed by <a href="http://www.snort.org/" rel="nofollow">Snort</a> even years ago when it was in it&#8217;s infancy. It is amazing to see how far Snort has come and what Martin Roesch has made of it. I&#8217;ll probably be looking hard at Sourcefire in a few months time as I look to replace an aging IBM ISS Site Protector installation.</p>
<p>I certainly hope things pan out for yourself and all the other Nortel employees who I&#8217;ve had the pleasure of working with and/or meeting in person.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McNamara</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2009/06/when-will-it-end/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately there&#039;s a lot of politics in play for a lot of us... you could say that this was the &quot;proverbial straw that broke the camel&#039;s back&quot;.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/camelsback.gif&quot;/&gt;

In my specific case I have a large data center move where I really can&#039;t recommend Nortel given the their current situation, especially for a six digit purchase. I&#039;ve had to look at Juniper, HP, Brocade and Cisco for a solution. While each of them has their strengths and weaknesses it&#039;s a large undertaking to sort it all out and get apples to apples designs. I will say that I&#039;m impressed with the Cisco Nexus 7010. I&#039;m also amazed to see Cisco finally getting away from Spanning Tree with their Virtual Port Channel feature. I&#039;m still amazed how far the industry was behind Nortel on this one... again a shame Nortel wasn&#039;t able to fully market the possibilities to the masses.

I understand from some folks that Nortel is really focusing on &quot;fine tuning&quot; the software in their products, trying to use this period to build on the stability of each product. I&#039;m not sure if that means that product development from a hardware perspective is on hold but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to hear that. I know Nortel has been working on the VSP9000 for quite sometime now but you&#039;ve got to wonder how much R&amp;D is going on at this point.

There was even an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/062509-nortel-layoffs-ica-microsoft.html?fsrc=netflash-rss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; suggesting that Nortel was starting to cut the ties with Microsoft&#039;s Unified Communications partnership.

Regardless of what happens we have a &lt;b&gt;LOT&lt;/b&gt; of Nortel gear that will be here for years and years to come.

Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately there&#8217;s a lot of politics in play for a lot of us&#8230; you could say that this was the &#8220;proverbial straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back&#8221;.</p>
<p><img src="http://mirror.michaelfmcnamara.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/camelsback.gif"/></p>
<p>In my specific case I have a large data center move where I really can&#8217;t recommend Nortel given the their current situation, especially for a six digit purchase. I&#8217;ve had to look at Juniper, HP, Brocade and Cisco for a solution. While each of them has their strengths and weaknesses it&#8217;s a large undertaking to sort it all out and get apples to apples designs. I will say that I&#8217;m impressed with the Cisco Nexus 7010. I&#8217;m also amazed to see Cisco finally getting away from Spanning Tree with their Virtual Port Channel feature. I&#8217;m still amazed how far the industry was behind Nortel on this one&#8230; again a shame Nortel wasn&#8217;t able to fully market the possibilities to the masses.</p>
<p>I understand from some folks that Nortel is really focusing on &#8220;fine tuning&#8221; the software in their products, trying to use this period to build on the stability of each product. I&#8217;m not sure if that means that product development from a hardware perspective is on hold but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to hear that. I know Nortel has been working on the VSP9000 for quite sometime now but you&#8217;ve got to wonder how much R&#038;D is going on at this point.</p>
<p>There was even an <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/062509-nortel-layoffs-ica-microsoft.html?fsrc=netflash-rss" rel="nofollow">article</a> suggesting that Nortel was starting to cut the ties with Microsoft&#8217;s Unified Communications partnership.</p>
<p>Regardless of what happens we have a <b>LOT</b> of Nortel gear that will be here for years and years to come.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: wimclend</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2009/06/when-will-it-end/#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>wimclend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stuff starts getting done when your job is on the line!  Strangely the same happened with the Nortel TPS products that run Sourcefire.  No updates for weeks/months.  Then they announce MD/EOL of the product line and now updates come out every week or two, if not more!

I hope something good comes of it though.  I have two horses in this race.  I&#039;m employed by a prof services company and our primary vendor is Nortel (mostly data though, which is probably better for us if Avaya buys it, Data should be safe).  And my father is a sales guy at Nortel (who is still selling, thankfully most of our customers are still loyal to us and Nortel!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stuff starts getting done when your job is on the line!  Strangely the same happened with the Nortel TPS products that run Sourcefire.  No updates for weeks/months.  Then they announce MD/EOL of the product line and now updates come out every week or two, if not more!</p>
<p>I hope something good comes of it though.  I have two horses in this race.  I&#8217;m employed by a prof services company and our primary vendor is Nortel (mostly data though, which is probably better for us if Avaya buys it, Data should be safe).  And my father is a sales guy at Nortel (who is still selling, thankfully most of our customers are still loyal to us and Nortel!)</p>
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		<title>By: svl0r</title>
		<link>http://blog.michaelfmcnamara.com/2009/06/when-will-it-end/#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>svl0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t jump yet... Something doesn&#039;t seem right. I can see that they may try and shave off the &quot;fat&quot; of the company. Yet they aren&#039;t trying to sell like crazy. Something else to think about, they keep releasing alot of code. Something is up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t jump yet&#8230; Something doesn&#8217;t seem right. I can see that they may try and shave off the &#8220;fat&#8221; of the company. Yet they aren&#8217;t trying to sell like crazy. Something else to think about, they keep releasing alot of code. Something is up&#8230;</p>
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